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US negotiators asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky whether Ukraine would withdraw its troops from Donbas if it were admitted to NATO, the first time the question had been raised, Zelensky said on November 13. Ukrainska Pravda and The Kyiv Independent reported the same account of the exchange. Zelensky said that if Washington and NATO allies confirm a concrete security package, including Article 5-level guarantees, military funding and recovery support, he would put the decision to a public vote. He categorically ruled out legal recognition of occupied territories as Russian. He also said Russia is seeking to revise the European security architecture, which he called dangerous.